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[crowd cheering]

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- [♪ "Help!" playing]
<i>- ♪ ...not so self-assured ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Now I find I've changed my mind ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I've opened up the doors ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Help me if you can, I'm feeling down ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And I do appreciate you being 'round ♪</i>

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{\an8}[♪ music concludes]

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[ship horn blaring]

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{\an8}[seagulls squawking]

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[♪ "In My Life" playing]

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<i>♪ There are places I remember
all my life ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Though some have changed ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Some forever, not for better ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Some have gone and some remain ♪</i>

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<i>♪ All these places had their moments ♪</i>

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<i>♪ With lovers and friends
I still can recall ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Some are dead and some are living ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In my life I've loved them all ♪</i>

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<i>♪ But of all these friends and lovers ♪</i>

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<i>♪ There is no one compares with you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And these memories lose their meaning ♪</i>

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<i>♪ When I think of love as something new ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Though I know
I'll never lose affection ♪</i>

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<i>♪ For people and things that went before ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I know I'll often stop
and think about them ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In my life I love you more ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Though I know
I'll never lose affection ♪</i>

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<i>♪ For people and things that went before ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I know I'll often stop
and think about them ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In my life I love you more ♪</i>

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<i>♪ In my life I love you more ♪</i>

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[♪ music concludes]

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[♪ "Help!" playing]

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<i>- ♪ Help! ♪
- ♪ I need somebody ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ Help! ♪
- ♪ Not just anybody ♪</i>

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<i>- ♪ Help! ♪
- ♪ You know I need someone ♪</i>

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<i>- Help!</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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[John] Let's go back and get 'em, eh?

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- I'm game.
- Yeah, let's smash 'em.

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- Let's find that temple, eh?
- [Paul] Right! To the temple.

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A man's got to do what he's got to do.

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[George] I don't reckon
all this running away.

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[John] Let's go back...
back, back, back...

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[♪ "In The Mood" playing]

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...back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, back...

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[♪ music concludes]

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[♪ "We'll Meet Again" playing]

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<i>♪ We'll meet again ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Don't know where, don't know when... ♪</i>

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[Ringo] <i>My mother used to say that, uh,</i>

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<i>because I was born,
the Second World War started.</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ Some sunny day... ♪</i>

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[John] <i>I spent some time</i>
<i>with Mother up till about four,</i>

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<i>then me father split.
He was a merchant seaman,</i>

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<i>you know, you can imagine, and...</i>

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<i>and it was 1940s in the War, and all that.</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ ...always do... ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ 'Til the blue skies drive
the dark clouds ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ Far away... ♪</i>

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[Paul] <i>My mum was a Catholic.</i>
<i>Dad was a Protestant.</i>

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<i>They got married quite late.</i>

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<i>I think they had me
when they were, like, 40,</i>

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<i>or something. It was quite sort of late.</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ ...be long ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ They'll be happy to know ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ That as you saw me go ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ I was singing... ♪</i>

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[George] <i>My father was driving</i>
<i>a bus at the time I was born,</i>

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<i>and I lived in a two-up
and two-down, 12 Arnold Grove.</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ Don't know where, don't know when ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ But I know we'll meet again ♪</i>

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- [machine gun fire]
- [explosions]

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<i>- ♪ Some sunny day ♪</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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[Ringo] <i>We were all roughly the same age,</i>
<i>and we were like the first...</i>

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[♪ "I'm Beginning
To See The Light" playing]

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<i>...group of, uh, people
who didn't go in the Army.</i>

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[Major] Halt!

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[Paul] <i>Me mum was a nurse.</i>
<i>She was a midwife as well.</i>

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<i>And my dad was a cotton salesman.</i>

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[John] <i>I was raised by my auntie.</i>

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<i>Me father and me mother split
when I was about four.</i>

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<i>But I spent some time
with Mother up till about four.</i>

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<i>Then I was brought up by an auntie.</i>

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[Ringo] <i>Dad, uh, was a, uh...</i>
<i>he made cakes,</i>

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<i>so we always had sugar through the War.</i>

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<i>Mum? She ended up doing a lot of jobs</i>

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<i>'cause he left when I was three.</i>

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<i>He decided that was enough of that,</i>

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<i>and, uh, so she did any
down-home job she could get</i>

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<i>to feed and clothe me.</i>

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[George] <i>My mother was, um,</i>
<i>from an Irish family</i>

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<i>called French,</i>

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<i>and, uh, she had lots
of brothers and sisters,</i>

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<i>uncles who had bald heads,</i>

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<i>who used to say they got their bald heads</i>

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<i>by knocking pub doors open! </i>[Chuckles]

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[Ringo] <i>I was terrible at school</i>
<i>because I didn't spend much time there</i>

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<i>because I was also very sick as a kid.</i>

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<i>I had, uh, peritonitis
when I was six and a half,</i>

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<i>which just means burst appendix
and you're gonna die.</i>

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<i>And they said to my mother,
"He'll be dead" three times.</i>

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<i>But here we are. We're still here.</i>

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{\an8}[Paul] <i>My dad was a musician,</i>
<i>amateur musician,</i>

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{\an8}<i>and, uh, he would play piano
around the house.</i>

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<i>We always had a piano.</i>

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<i>And I've got some lovely
childhood memories</i>

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<i>of sort of lying on the floor
and hearing him play.</i>

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[George] <i>In those days,</i>
<i>they had those radios,</i>

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<i>like crystal sets.</i>

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<i>You used to have to take the battery</i>

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<i>down to some shop on the corner,</i>

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<i>and then leave it with them
for about three days</i>

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<i>to charge it up.</i>

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[Ringo] <i>Everybody has</i>
<i>their party piece in Liverpool.</i>

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<i>You </i>have<i> to sing a song.</i>

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<i>And, uh, my mother's was, uh...</i>

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<i>"Little Drummer Boy",
she would sing to me,</i>

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<i>and I would sing "Nobody's Child" to her,</i>

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<i>and she'd always cry.</i> [laughs]

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[♪ Sings "Nobody's Child"]
<i>♪ I'm nobody's child... ♪ </i>Mum.

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[Paul] <i>John really loved his mother,</i>

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<i>'cause she was great. I loved her, too.</i>

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<i>And she played a little ukulele.</i>

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<i>And then, unfortunately,
she was, uh, run over</i>

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<i>by an off-duty policeman
who was drunk at the time.</i>

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[Paul] <i>My mum had died,</i>
<i>actually, at this point.</i>

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<i>My mum died when I was, uh, 14,</i>

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<i>which is, you know,
the big shock in my teenage years.</i>

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<i>- She died of cancer.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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<i>And John's mum having died,
this was always a very big bond</i>

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<i>between John and I.</i>

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[♪ "C'mon Everybody" playing]

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[John] <i>Rock and roll was real.</i>

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<i>Everything else was unreal.
To me, it got through.</i>

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<i>It was the only thing to get through to me</i>

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<i>out of all the things that were happening</i>

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<i>- when I was 15, you know.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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- [♪ "Rocket 88" playing]
<i>- ♪ You women have heard of jalopies ♪</i>

145
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<i>♪ You've heard the noise they make ♪</i>

146
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<i>♪ Well, let me introduce
my new Rocket 88... ♪</i>

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[John] <i>There was no such thing</i>
<i>as an English record, you know.</i>

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<i>I think the first English record</i>

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<i>that was anywhere near anything
was "Move It" by Cliff Richard,</i>

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<i>and before that, there'd been nothing.</i>

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<i>But the fact was
that there hadn't been a history</i>

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<i>of making that kind of music,
whereas there had in America.</i>

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- [♪ Music concludes]
- [♪ "Ain't That A Shame" playing]

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<i>♪ You made me cry when you said goodbye ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Ain't that a shame... ♪</i>

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[Paul] <i>You can't imagine a time</i>

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<i>when rock and roll
was only one of the musics.</i>

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- [♪ Music concludes]
- [♪ "No Other Love" playing]

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<i>♪ No other love have I... ♪</i>

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[George] <i>Whatever record was being played,</i>

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<i>you'd try and listen to it.</i>

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<i>You know, you couldn't even get
a cup of sugar,</i>

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<i>- let alone a rock and roll record.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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So I went to art school.
I was at art school for five years.

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When I went... this is a sort
of college, you know.

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I went in there,

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they would only allow jazz
to be played, you know.

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They wouldn't allow rock and roll in.

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It was frowned upon those days.

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So we had to con them
into letting us play rock and roll

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there on the record player,
by calling it "blues", you know.

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- [♪ "That's All Right" playing]
<i>- ♪ Well, that's all right, mama ♪</i>

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<i>♪ That's all right with you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ That's all right, mama ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Just any way you do ♪</i>

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<i>♪ That's all right... ♪</i>

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I remember being in school
when I was a kid

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and, uh, somebody had a picture
in one of the musical papers,

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uh, of Elvis.

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{\an8}And I just looked at it
and I just thought,

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{\an8}- "He's just <i>so</i> good looking!"
- [♪ music concludes]

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{\an8}He just looked perfect.

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[John] <i>When I was 16,</i>
<i>Elvis was what was happening.</i>

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<i>A guy with long, greasy hair,</i>

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<i>wiggling his ass,
and singing "Hound Dog" and, uh,</i>

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<i>"That's All Right, Mama"
on those early Sun Records,</i>

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<i>which I think are his great period.</i>

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[Paul] <i>That's him!</i>
<i>That is the guru we have been waiting for.</i>

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<i>The Messiah has arrived.</i>

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[♪ "Hound Dog" playing]

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<i>♪ You ain't nothin' but a hound dog ♪</i>

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[crowd cheering]

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<i>♪ Cryin' all the time ♪</i>

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[crowd cheering]

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<i>♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog, hound dog ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Cryin' all the time ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit ♪</i>

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<i>♪ You ain't no friend of mine ♪</i>

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- [crowd cheering]
- [♪ music concludes]

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- [crowd cheering]
- [♪ "I'm In Love Again" playing]

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<i>♪ Yes, it's me and I'm in love again ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Had no lovin' since you know when... ♪</i>

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[George] I was about 12 or 13

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when I first heard Fats Domino,
"I'm In Love Again".

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That was what I would call

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the first "rock and roll" record
I ever heard.

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- [♪ Music concludes]
- And then later on, you know,

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Elvis, Little Richard and Buddy Holly.

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{\an8}- [♪ "Peggy Sue" playing]
<i>- ♪ I love you, Peggy Sue ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ With a love so rare and true ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Oh Peggy, my Peggy Sue... ♪</i>

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[Paul] There were lots of people
coming up then,

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and one of them was Buddy Holly.

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We loved his vocal sound
and we loved his guitar playing.

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But most of all, I think, was the fact

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that he actually wrote the stuff himself.

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- [♪ Music concludes]
- That's what turned <i>us</i> on.

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- [♪ "When Did You Leave Heaven" playing]
<i>- ♪ Why... ♪</i>

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{\an8}[George] We got to hear people
like Big Bill Broonzy.

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{\an8}I think he might have even done
a tour of England.

221
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<i>♪ ...just for these earthly things? ♪</i>

222
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,720
<i>♪ Why did you lose your little halo? ♪</i>

223
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<i>♪ Baby, why'd you drop your wings? ♪</i>

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I was a big fan of his...

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- [♪ music concludes]
- ...and, actually, Frankie Laine.

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[♪ "Jezebel" playing]

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{\an8}<i>♪ If ever a pair of eyes
promised paradise ♪</i>

228
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{\an8}<i>♪ Deceiving me, grieving me,
leaving me blue... ♪</i>

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[Ringo] <i>I was listening to a lot</i>
<i>of Country and Western then.</i>

230
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<i>- Skiffle was coming through.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

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[John] <i>You know, all those "train" songs</i>

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<i>and, uh, you know, "Rock Island Line",</i>

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{\an8}<i>- and all that stuff.</i>
- [♪ "Rock Island Line" playing]

234
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{\an8}<i>♪ Well, the Rock Island Line
is a mighty good road ♪</i>

235
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{\an8}<i>♪ Well, the Rock Island Line
is the road to ride ♪</i>

236
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<i>♪ Yeah, the Rock Island Line
is a mighty good road ♪</i>

237
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<i>♪ And if you want to ride it,
gotta ride it like you find it ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Get your ticket at the station
on the Rock Island Line... ♪</i>

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[George] I think the first music
I can remember hearing

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as guitar-oriented music...

241
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- [♪ music concludes]
- ...was this record my dad brought

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from New York.

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- [♪ "T For Texas" playing]
- Uh, it was a guy called Jimmie Rodgers,

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The Singing Brakeman.

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{\an8}<i>♪ T for Texas, T for Tennessee ♪</i>

246
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<i>♪ T for Thelma ♪</i>

247
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<i>♪ That gal that made
a wreck out of me... ♪</i>

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I went to see, um,

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<i>Rock Around The Clock </i>in the Isle of Man.

250
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My grandparents took me there
after I came out of hospital.

251
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- [♪ Music concludes]
- And it was just sensational

252
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because, um, they ripped up the cinema,

253
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and this was good for me to see.

254
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[♪ "(We're Gonna) Rock
Around The Clock" playing]

255
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{\an8}<i>♪ When the chimes ring
five, six, and seven... ♪</i>

256
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{\an8}[George] <i>In those days, you know,</i>

257
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{\an8}<i>they say "beggars can't be choosers",</i>

258
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<i>and we were just desperate.
You'd just get anything.</i>

259
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<i>Whatever film came,
you'd just try and see it.</i>

260
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<i>♪ ...gonna rock around
the clock tonight ♪</i>

261
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- [♪ "Ready Teddy" playing]
<i>- ♪ Goin' to the corner ♪</i>

262
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{\an8}<i>♪ Pick up my sweetie pie ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ She's my rock and roll baby,
she's the apple of my eye ♪</i>

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{\an8}<i>♪ I'm ready... ♪</i>

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{\an8}[Paul] So when
<i>Girl Can't Help It</i> came along,

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instead of us looking at these
old black-and-white movies,

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suddenly this was in color,
and this was in wide screen.

268
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- [♪ Music concludes]
- And there's a famous bit at the mi...

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at the beginning of <i>Girl Can't Help It,</i>

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where Tom Ewell comes on

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and he sort of says, "Okay, now..."

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"Widescreen!"

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[♪ Orchestral instruments imitate
fingers clicking and screen rolling back]

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[♪ Orchestral instruments imitate
fingers clicking and screen rolling back]

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"Color!"

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[♪ Strings play pizzicato notes]

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Gorgeous lifelike color by DeLuxe.

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[♪ "The Girl Can't Help It"
orchestral music playing]

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[♪ Music concludes]

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Sometimes you wonder
who's minding the store.

281
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[chuckles]

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And you cut to Jayne Mansfield.
And that's it. The game's over.

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[♪ "The Girl Can't Help It" playing]

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<i>♪ If she walks by,
the menfolks get engrossed ♪</i>

285
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<i>♪ She can't help it,
the girl can't help it ♪</i>

286
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<i>♪ If she winks an eye,
the bread slice turn to toast ♪</i>

287
00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,520
<i>♪ She can't help it,
the girl can't help it... ♪</i>

288
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You know, you went to see those movies

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with Elvis or somebody in it

290
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- when we were still in Liverpool...
- [♪ music concludes]

291
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...and you'd see everybody
waiting to see him, right?

292
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And I'd be waiting there too.

293
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And they'd all scream
when he came on the screen.

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So we thought, "That's a good job!"

295
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- [♪ "Ready Teddy" playing]
<i>- ♪ Ready, ready, ready to rock and roll ♪</i>

296
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[John] <i>When I was a kid,</i>
<i>I was a fan of Elvis Presley,</i>

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<i>and Little Richard, and Chuck Berry.</i>

298
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<i>I was just interested in the music</i>

299
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<i>and how to do it. How can I do that?</i>

300
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,040
<i>And I studied the records.</i>

301
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<i>What did they sing? How are they doing it?</i>

302
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,040
<i>How do they make this music?</i>

303
00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,960
<i>What is it that they're doing
that excites me,</i>

304
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<i>that I wanna do it?</i>

305
00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,800
When I was 16, I re-established
a relationship with me mother

306
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for about four years. She taught me music.

307
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She first of all taught me the banjo.

308
00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,520
And from that
I progressed to guitar. She...

309
00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,160
The first song I learnt
was "Ain't That A Shame",

310
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an old rock hit, Fats Domino.

311
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,320
<i>It was a joke in the family,</i>

312
00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,960
<i>a guitar's all right for a hobby,</i>

313
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<i>but it won't earn you any money.</i>

314
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Me dad used to be a trumpet
player himself,

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and for my birthday
he once bought me a trumpet

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from Rushworth and Dreaper's.

317
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It was one of the music stores
in, uh, Liverpool.

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But I suddenly figured out
that I wouldn't be able to sing

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with this thing stuck in me mouth.

320
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,960
So I went back to the shop
and traded it in for a guitar.

321
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So that was a Zenith.
First guitar I ever had.

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I think hearing a little bit
of guitar music,

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um, made me want a guitar.

324
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I used to be at the back
of the class, drawing,

325
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trying to draw guitars,

326
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big cello cutaway guitars with f-holes,

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and little solid ones
with pointy cutaways,

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and rounded cutaways.

329
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And, you know, I was totally into guitars.

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And I heard about this kid
who had a guitar

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and it was three pound ten.

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It was just a little acoustic,
round-hole type guitar.

333
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And I got the three pound ten
off my mother.

334
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That was a lot of money in those days.

335
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,360
I used to look in shops and see drums.

336
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,480
That's all I looked at.
I never looked at guitars, or anything.

337
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I bought a 30-bob bass drum, 30 shillings.

338
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Huge mother!
Just a huge one-sided bass drum.

339
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,000
And in our area

340
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there used to be lots and lots of parties.

341
00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920
You know, your uncle,
who would play banjo,

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or the harmonica.

343
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,800
My grandparents played mandolin
and banjo...

344
00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,960
um... There was always
someone playing something.

345
00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,640
And so I would play my big drum
and drive 'em mad.

346
00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,760
But because I was a kid,
uh, they'd let me do it.

347
00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320
George and I lived very near
each other in Liverpool

348
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,600
so, in fact, we were just
a bus stop away from each other.

349
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I'd get on the bus,
and then the stop afterwards,

350
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George'd get on.

351
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,480
So, being quite close in age,
we'd sit together

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and we'd talk about stuff, and that.

353
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,680
So, I suppose I used

354
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,040
to talk down to him a little bit.

355
00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,440
It might have been a failing of mine

356
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,960
to tend to sort of talk down to him,

357
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,720
'cause I'd known him as a younger kid.

358
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,960
[George] <i>He was always</i>
<i>nine months older than I.</i>

359
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,880
<i>Even now, he's </i>still
<i>nine months older than me.</i>

360
00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040
<i>Paul and I used to just kind
of get together,</i>

361
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,440
<i>played a bit, but it was...
we were just schoolboys then.</i>

362
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,120
<i>There was no groups involved</i>

363
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,880
<i>- till a little bit later.</i>
- [♪ "Twist And Shout" playing]

364
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,080
<i>- ♪ Whaah! ♪
- ♪ Yeah ♪</i>

365
00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,400
<i>♪ Baby, now ♪</i>

366
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,880
<i>♪ Shake it up, baby ♪</i>

367
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,800
<i>♪ Twist and shout ♪</i>

368
00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,360
<i>♪ Twist and shout ♪</i>

369
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,880
<i>♪ Come on, come on, come on,
come on, baby, now ♪</i>

370
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,240
<i>♪ Come on, baby ♪</i>

371
00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,360
<i>♪ Come on and work it on out ♪</i>

372
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,160
<i>♪ Work it on out ♪</i>

373
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- [♪ music concludes]
- [John] <i>Paul met me</i>

374
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,560
<i>the first day I did
"Be-Bop-A-Lula" live on stage,</i>

375
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,880
<i>and a f... a mutual friend brought him</i>

376
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080
<i>to see my group called The Quarry Men.</i>

377
00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,760
I had a mate at school
who was called Ivan.

378
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,080
Ivan Vaughan.

379
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And we were born on exactly
the same day, in Liverpool,

380
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,080
so we... we were great mates.
And, uh, one day he said,

381
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,920
"Do you want to come
to the Woolton Village Fete?"

382
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,920
So I said, "Yeah, all right."

383
00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,760
So we went along one Saturday afternoon.

384
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,240
I remember coming into, uh, the field

385
00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,000
where they had the fete,
and just a bit over there,

386
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,200
there was a wagon, uh,
and on the back of this...

387
00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,680
or a little stage or something, on...

388
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,320
up on this stage there was
a few lads around.

389
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And there was one particular guy
I noticed at the front

390
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{\an8}- had a sort of checked shirt...
- [♪ "Come Go With Me" playing]

391
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,720
{\an8}...sort of blondish
kinda hair, a little bit curly,

392
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{\an8}sideboards, looking pretty cool,
and he was playing,

393
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,160
sort of, one of these guitars
guaranteed not to crack,

394
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,440
you know, not a very good one. But, um...

395
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,080
But he was making a very good job of it,

396
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,880
you know, and I remember
being quite impressed.

397
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,160
And he was doing a song by The Del-Vikings

398
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,080
called "Come Go With Me".

399
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,880
And the thing about it was,

400
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,400
he obviously didn't know the words,

401
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,240
but he was pulling in lyrics
from blues songs.

402
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,800
So instead of going, uh...

403
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,920
<i>♪ Come little darlin',
come and go with me ♪</i>

404
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,840
which is right, he'd then go...

405
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,280
<i>♪ Down, down, down to the penitentiary ♪</i>

406
00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:40,920
And he'd be doing sort of stuff
he'd heard on

407
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000
Big Bill Broonzy records, and stuff.

408
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,000
So I thought, "That's clever. That's..."

409
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,600
"He's... He's pretty good." That was John.

410
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040
[John] <i>And we met,</i>
<i>and we talked after the show.</i>

411
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,960
<i>And... And I saw he had talent.</i>

412
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,640
<i>And he was playing guitar backstage,</i>

413
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,760
<i>and doing "Twenty Flight Rock"
by Eddie Cochran.</i>

414
00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,760
- [crowd cheering]
- [♪ "Twenty Flight Rock" playing]

415
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,040
{\an8}<i>♪ Ooh, well, I've got a girl
with a record machine ♪</i>

416
00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,720
{\an8}<i>♪ When it comes to rockin'
she's the queen ♪</i>

417
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,920
<i>♪ We love to dance on a Saturday night ♪</i>

418
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,240
<i>♪ All alone
where I can hold her tight... ♪</i>

419
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,680
But the thing I think impressed
him the most was, um,

420
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I knew all the words.

421
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,280
<i>♪ So I walked one, two flight,
three flight, four ♪</i>

422
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,680
<i>♪ Five, six, seven flight... ♪</i>

423
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,040
<i>♪ Eight flight more ♪</i>

424
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,080
<i>♪ Up on the 12th I'm startin' to drag ♪</i>

425
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560
<i>♪ 15 before I'm ready to sag ♪</i>

426
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840
<i>♪ Get to the top, I'm too tired to rock ♪</i>

427
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920
<i>♪ Well, called me up on the telephone ♪</i>

428
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,880
<i>♪ Said, "Come on over, baby,
'cause I'm all alone" ♪</i>

429
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,320
<i>♪ I said "Baby, you're mighty sweet" ♪</i>

430
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,640
<i>♪ "But I'm in bed with achin' feet" ♪</i>

431
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,720
<i>♪ This went on for a couple of days ♪</i>

432
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,560
<i>♪ But I couldn't stay away ♪</i>

433
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,320
<i>♪ So I walked one,
two flight, three flight, four ♪</i>

434
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760
<i>♪ Five, six, seven flight,
eight flight more ♪</i>

435
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,520
<i>♪ Up on the 12th I'm startin' to sag ♪</i>

436
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,800
<i>♪ 15 before I'm ready to drag ♪</i>

437
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,280
<i>♪ I get to the top,
I'm too tired to rock ♪</i>

438
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:00,640
[♪ goes into guitar break]

439
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,320
[John] <i>I was the singer and the leader.</i>

440
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,040
<i>Well, I made the decision
whether to have him</i>

441
00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,200
<i>in the group or not.
Was it better to have a...</i>

442
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200
<i>a guy who was better
than the people I had in?</i>

443
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840
<i>Obviously. Or not?</i>

444
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,160
<i>And that decision was to let Paul in,</i>

445
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,480
<i>to make the group stronger.</i>

446
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,200
- [♪ Music concludes]
- [John] <i>And I turned around</i>

447
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,640
<i>to him right then
on first meeting and said,</i>

448
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,760
<i>"Do you wanna join the group?"</i>

449
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560
<i>And I think he said yes the next day.</i>

450
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,360
[♪ "A Day In The Life"
final chord playing]

451
00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,080
[John] <i>Now, George came through Paul.</i>

452
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,200
[Paul] I said,
"Well, I've got... I've got...

453
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,200
I've got this friend who's...
who's really good, you know."

454
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,480
And they said, "Well, yeah,
like, what?" you know.

455
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,280
And I said, "Well, he can play
'Raunchy' perfectly."

456
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,680
[♪ Singing "Raunchy" riff]
"Dow, dow, dow, daga-da, dahn."

457
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,680
- [♪ "Raunchy" (Instrumental) playing]
- And we all loved that song.

458
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760
So we said, "Well,
gotta... gotta try him out."

459
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,640
I remember we ended up
on the top deck of a bus, empty,

460
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,720
late-night-bus kind of thing,
and just us there,

461
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,680
and I just, "Go on, George,
get your guitar out. Go on."

462
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560
You show 'em, man." I thought, you know...

463
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,760
And he got it out.
[♪ singing "Raunchy" riff] "Dow, dow..."

464
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,360
Sure enough, note perfect.
"Raunchy". "You're in!"

465
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,360
[♪ "Something" (Instrumental) playing]

466
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,160
[♪ Music concludes]

467
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,400
We were together much longer
than the public knew us.

468
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,560
You know, it wasn't just from '64.

469
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,880
I was 24 in '64,

470
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,360
and I'd been playing with Paul
since I was 15,

471
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,120
and he's very nice...

472
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,000
- [host laughs]
- ...and... [chuckles]

473
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,600
...and George about
a year later, or something.

474
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,880
So it's a long time
we spent together in...

475
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,280
in all the most
extraordinary circumstances.

476
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320
[♪ "That'll Be The Day" playing]

477
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,800
<i>♪ Well, that'll be the day,
when you say goodbye ♪</i>

478
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,400
<i>♪ Yeah, that'll be the day,
when you make me cry ♪</i>

479
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,360
<i>♪ You say you're gonna leave,
you know it's a lie ♪</i>

480
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,720
<i>♪ 'Cause that'll be the day
when I die... ♪</i>

481
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,400
[John] <i>The first thing we ever recorded</i>

482
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,880
<i>was "That'll Be The Day",
a Buddy Holly song,</i>

483
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,400
<i>and one of Paul's, called, uh,
"In Spite Of All The Danger".</i>

484
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,560
<i>And somewhere, it might be around,</i>

485
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,040
<i>it's in Liverpool somewhere, that record,</i>

486
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,400
<i>that's the actual
first recording we ever made.</i>

487
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,080
[Paul] <i>I think it was starting</i>
<i>to dawn on us</i>

488
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,920
<i>that it would be a good idea, if we could,</i>

489
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,440
<i>to write our own stuff,</i>

490
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,800
<i>'cause there were so many people
doing cover versions.</i>

491
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,880
<i>And then I sang
"In Spite Of All The Danger",</i>

492
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,200
<i>which is a little self-penned thing</i>

493
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320
<i>which was very influenced by Elvis.</i>

494
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,000
[♪ "In Spite Of All The Danger" playing]

495
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,520
<i>♪ In spite of all the danger ♪</i>

496
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,160
<i>♪ In spite of all that may be ♪</i>

497
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600
<i>♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah ♪</i>

498
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,560
<i>♪ I'll do anything for you ♪</i>

499
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,560
<i>♪ Anything you want me to ♪</i>

500
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,360
<i>- ♪ If you'll be true to me ♪
- ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah... ♪</i>

501
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,000
[John] <i>Everybody hung 'round in this...</i>

502
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,200
<i>in this club in Liverpool
called the Jacaranda,</i>

503
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,200
<i>which was near the art school,
near Paul and George's school,</i>

504
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,720
<i>in the center of Liverpool.</i>

505
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,040
<i>And so we started
hanging 'round there</i>

506
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:06,880
<i>before we really formed a band, you know,</i>

507
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,840
<i>when there was just me,
Paul and George.</i>

508
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,520
The early days, we used to show up at gigs

509
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,480
with just three of us, me,
George and John, with guitars.

510
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,160
And the fella who booked us'd say,

511
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,280
"Where's the drummer?"

512
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,840
We'd say, "The rhythm's in the guitars."

513
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,840
{\an8}[George] We... We once tried
to do this audition

514
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,960
{\an8}for Carroll Levis... There was this guy,

515
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,120
{\an8}Carroll Levis Discoveries.
And the scam, what it was,

516
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,640
was that, you know,
everybody'd go on and audition

517
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600
and then they'd pick out somebody for...

518
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,800
to, you know,
out of the auditions, and say,

519
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,280
- "Okay, you, you and you."
- [♪ music concludes]

520
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,680
And they'd pick out
about probably 20 different acts to go on.

521
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,240
And they'd have an audience,

522
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,720
and then they'd have the Clapometer,

523
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,400
and whoever won
would go on into the final,

524
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,240
or come back next week,

525
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,880
and it was just something
that kept on going.

526
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,480
We went in for one of those.

527
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,160
So we were going up on the train

528
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,880
from Liverpool to Manchester,

529
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,720
rehearsing what we were going to do,

530
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,600
and only me and George had our guitars.

531
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,480
I think John, he must have sold his,

532
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560
or bust it, or something.
He didn't have his with him.

533
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,320
Okay, there's just the two of us
with guitars.

534
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,880
And, as it happened, it looked good,

535
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
'cause Paul was, like, left-handed,

536
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200
and I was right-handed, and still am,

537
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,160
and John was in the middle.
And, like, John stood there

538
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200
with a hand on each shoulder, you know.

539
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,760
[singing "Think It Over"]
<i>♪ Think it over what you just said ♪</i>

540
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,040
<i>♪ Pa, pa, pah... ♪</i>

541
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,960
Me and George, John'd do the lead.

542
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,440
And we were also gonna do "Rave On".

543
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,760
So we went. We did it.

544
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,720
He put his arms around us,
and stuff, and it was okay.

545
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,160
We didn't win, as usual.

546
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,400
But I believe that day
some unfortunate person in that,

547
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,640
uh, theater was relieved of his guitar.

548
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,120
[♪ "I Feel Fine"
first feedback note playing]

549
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760
{\an8}[Paul] <i>Stuart was</i>
<i>John's friend mainly, from art college.</i>

550
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,400
{\an8}- [♪ Music concludes]
<i>- Stuart was a very good painter.</i>

551
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000
<i>We were all slightly jealous
of John's friendship.</i>

552
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,200
<i>So when Stuart came in,</i>

553
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,680
<i>it was a little bit of a sort of...</i>

554
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,680
<i>he was sort of taking
a little bit of that position</i>

555
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,760
<i>away from us.</i>

556
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,760
<i>We sort of had to take
a little bit of a, um,</i>

557
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,840
<i>back seat.</i>

558
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,360
[George] <i>The famous story</i>
<i>is where he sold his painting</i>

559
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,920
<i>to John Moore Exhibition,
or something like that.</i>

560
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,240
[Paul] So the question was,
"What do you do with 75 quid?"

561
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,280
So we said, "Do you know,
that happens to be"

562
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,440
the exact amount it takes
to buy a Höfner bass,

563
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,880
"and that'd be a great thing
to spend the money on."

564
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,280
He said, "No, no, I'm a painter.

565
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,520
I've gotta spend it on paints,
and suchlike, you know."

566
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,520
We said, "No, Stuart, really."

567
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960
And John and I kind of gave him
quite a sort of persuasive argument

568
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,640
that the best thing to do, obviously,

569
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,720
was to buy this Höfner bass. [Chuckles]

570
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Which he did. He went and did that.

571
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760
And, um, only trouble was,
he couldn't play it.

572
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,720
[George] <i>But it was better</i>
<i>to have a bass player who,</i>

573
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,120
<i>uh, couldn't play</i>

574
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,000
<i>than to not have a bass player at all.</i>

575
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,480
[♪ "I'll Follow The Sun" playing]

576
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,280
<i>♪ Well, don't leave me alone out here ♪</i>

577
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,520
<i>♪ Have courage
and follow me, my dear ♪</i>

578
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,480
- [♪ "One After 909" playing]
<i>- ♪ Well, she says she's travelling ♪</i>

579
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,400
<i>♪ On the one after 909 ♪</i>

580
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,040
<i>♪ I said move over, honey
I'm travelling on that line ♪</i>

581
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,120
<i>♪ I said move over once, move over twice ♪</i>

582
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640
<i>♪ Come on, baby don't be cold as ice ♪</i>

583
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,440
<i>♪ She said she's travelling
on the one after 909... ♪</i>

584
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,680
[John] <i>Instead of going</i>
<i>to school, I'd go down</i>

585
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,520
<i>to his place, he had a piano.</i>

586
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,000
<i>And if I'd started something,
or he'd started something,</i>

587
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,560
<i>we'd say, "Here, I've got this."
And he'd say, "I've got this."</i>

588
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,160
<i>And we'd start helping
each other write our own songs</i>

589
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,880
<i>like that. So any combination
of the two of us writing,</i>

590
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,320
<i>that's how we wrote.</i>

591
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,640
[end of tape]

592
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,120
John and Stuart had this...
this flat in a place

593
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,520
called Gambier Terrace,

594
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,600
right near the Liverpool Institute,

595
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,840
near College of Art.

596
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,280
And, uh, I remember one day they came up.

597
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,680
John was all excited, saying,

598
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,680
"Oh, I've thought of this name,
The Beatles."

599
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,400
[Ringo] <i>John thought</i>
<i>of the name "Beatles",</i>

600
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,080
<i>and he'll tell you about it now.</i>

601
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,240
[John] <i>Well, I had a vision when I was 12,</i>

602
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520
<i>and I saw a man
on a flaming pie, and he said,</i>

603
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,560
<i>"You are Beatles with an A." And we are.</i>

604
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,680
{\an8}[Neil Aspinall]
<i>John put this thing in, um,</i>

605
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,520
{\an8}The Mersey Beat,<i> right,</i>
<i>which was also started</i>

606
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,480
{\an8}<i>by Bill Harry, who went
to art college with John,</i>

607
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
<i>just saying that, uh,
this little guy appeared</i>

608
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,160
<i>on a flaming pie,</i>

609
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,840
<i>you know, in the sky, and said,</i>

610
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200
<i>"Let there be Beatles with an A."</i>

611
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,200
[John] <i>I was looking</i>
<i>for a name, like The Crickets,</i>

612
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,520
<i>that meant two things,</i>

613
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,800
<i>and from Crickets I got to Beatles.</i>

614
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520
<i>When you said it,
people thought of crawly things.</i>

615
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,560
<i>And when you read it, it was beat music.</i>

616
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,560
You know, I realized by watching
<i>The Wild One,</i>

617
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,480
that the band... the... the gang
was all called the Beetles.

618
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,200
And here it is now.

619
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,760
You know, I've missed you.

620
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Ever since the club split up I missed you.

621
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920
We all missed you! Do you miss him?

622
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,880
- [The Beetles] Yeah! Sure!
- Yeah. The Beetles missed you.

623
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,200
All the Beetles missed you!

624
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,040
[♪ "From Me To You" outro playing]

625
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080
- [John's voice echoes] <i>And we are.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

626
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,760
When we started off, um, we had a manager

627
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,480
in Liverpool called Allan Williams,

628
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,000
who was a small bloke, uh,
a little sort of high voice,

629
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,120
little Welsh accent he had.
"All right, lads?"

630
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,640
{\an8}He was a great bloke.
He was a real good motivator.

631
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,520
{\an8}He was very good for us
at the time, you know.

632
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
{\an8}And we did a tour of Scotland.

633
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,160
It was a pretty pathetic tour.
By the end of it we were broke.

634
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,520
We had no money.

635
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680
We were all cold and freezing and,

636
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,480
you know, just miserable and...
and that was it, you know.

637
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,440
We all came back to Liverpool
and nothing happened really.

638
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,120
We didn't really know...

639
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,160
I felt really sad
'cause we were like orphans,

640
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,240
or something. We didn't have...

641
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Our shoes were all full of holes,

642
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,600
and our trousers were a mess.

643
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,640
[John] <i>I would say to the others</i>
<i>when they were depressed,</i>

644
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,120
<i>or we were all depressed, you know,</i>

645
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,760
<i>thinking that the group was going nowhere</i>

646
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,000
<i>and this is a shitty deal</i>

647
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040
<i>and we're in a shitty dressing room,</i>

648
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,800
<i>I'd say, "Where are we goin', fellas?"</i>

649
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,280
<i>And they'd go, "To the top, Johnny"</i>

650
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,920
<i>in pseudo-American voices.</i>

651
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,600
<i>And I'd say, "Where's that, fellas?"</i>

652
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
<i>And they'd say,
"To the top per most of the pop per most."</i>

653
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,280
<i>And I'd say, "Right!"</i>

654
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,560
<i>Then we'd all sort of cheer up.</i>

655
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,880
[George] And then later,
Allan came to us and said,

656
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600
"Okay, lads, you can have
this job in Germany.

657
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
The only problem is
you've got to be five people.

658
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680
He's asked for a five-piece band."

659
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920
At that point, Paul was the drummer

660
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,000
because all the drummers didn't show up!

661
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,160
And so, oh, that's right,

662
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,960
I said, "Okay. I remember this guy

663
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,480
who went up to this club,
and that we're gonna...

664
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,200
you know, Pete Best. And he had
this drum kit for Christmas."

665
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,960
{\an8}[Paul] <i>He was known on Merseyside</i>

666
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,360
{\an8}<i>as "Mean, Moody
and Magnificent Pete Best".</i>

667
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,400
[John] <i>People who owned drum kits were far</i>

668
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
<i>and few between. It was an expensive item.</i>

669
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,600
<i>And they were usually idiots, you know.</i>

670
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840
<i>We got Pete Best
just 'cause we needed a drummer</i>

671
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,400
<i>the next day to go to Hamburg.</i>

672
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,800
He came down to the Jacaranda club.

673
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600
We did a quick audition with him,

674
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,400
and jumped in the van
and went to Hamburg.

675
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,160
[♪ "Roll Over Beethoven" playing]

676
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,640
<i>♪ We're gonna write a little letter ♪</i>

677
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,440
<i>♪ Gonna mail it to my local D.J. ♪</i>

678
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,960
<i>♪ It's a rockin' little record
I want my jockey to play ♪</i>

679
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,880
<i>♪ Roll over Beethoven,
gotta hear it again today ♪</i>

680
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,640
<i>♪ You know my temperature's... ♪</i>

681
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,480
[Paul] <i>We ended up in Hamburg</i>
<i>at... um, very late one night.</i>

682
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,840
<i>We'd got the timing wrong.</i>

683
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,400
<i>There was no one there to meet us,</i>

684
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
<i>but we could find Hamburg off the map</i>

685
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600
<i>but then trying to find St. Pauli,</i>

686
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,040
<i>the little district in the Reeperbahn.</i>

687
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,120
<i>But everyone knew.</i>

688
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,760
[in German accent] <i>"Oh,</i>
<i>Reeperbahn, </i>ja,<i> it's dis vay,</i>

689
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,040
<i>you von't miss it," you know,</i>
<i>"Keep right </i>aus,<i> and..."</i>

690
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,040
[naturally] <i>Okay. So we went down,</i>

691
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
<i>and we found the street and the club,</i>

692
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,520
<i>but it was all closed.</i>

693
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,600
<i>But we were there
with no hotel or anything,</i>

694
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720
<i>and it was now...</i>
[pretends to yawn] <i>...bedtime, you know.</i>

695
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,040
<i>So we managed to shake up someone</i>

696
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,440
<i>from a neighboring club, or something.</i>

697
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640
<i>They... They found the guy,
and he opened the club,</i>

698
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640
<i>and we slept
the first night in the alcoves</i>

699
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560
<i>on the little red leather seats.</i>

700
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,960
[George] <i>The second night</i>
<i>we moved in the Bambi Kino,</i>

701
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200
<i>and then we were there for ages,
like, two months, three months.</i>

702
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,480
<i>Everything else was such a buzz,</i>

703
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,800
<i>you know, being right in the middle</i>

704
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,120
<i>of the naughtiest city
in the world at 17 years old.</i>

705
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
<i>It was kind of exciting.</i>

706
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,560
<i>And learning, you know, about,
well, there's all the gangsters,</i>

707
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
<i>and there's the transvestites,
and there's the...</i>

708
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,160
<i>You know, it was like that,
and there's the hookers.</i>

709
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
[Paul] At that time, we were just kids

710
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,880
let off the leash, really,

711
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,800
come straight from Liverpool to Hamburg,

712
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
and we were used
to these little Liverpool girls.

713
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,280
But by the time you got to Hamburg,

714
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,920
if you... if you got a girlfriend there...

715
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640
- [♪ music concludes]
- ...she was likely to be a stripper,

716
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,400
which was the only kind
of people who were around

717
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
at the time we were around
late at night there. So...

718
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,560
I mean, you'd...

719
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360
And for someone
who'd not really had much sex

720
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,760
in their lives before,
which none of us really had,

721
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,920
to be suddenly involved
with a sort of hard-core

722
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,640
striptease artist,

723
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920
who obviously knew a thing
or two about sex,

724
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
um, was quite an eye-opener.

725
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,120
[♪ "Money (That's What I Want)" playing]

726
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,720
<i>♪ The best things in life are free ♪</i>

727
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560
<i>♪ But you can keep 'em
for the birds and bees ♪</i>

728
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,120
<i>- ♪ Now give me money ♪
- ♪ That's what I want ♪</i>

729
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680
<i>- ♪ That's what I want ♪
- ♪ That's what I want ♪</i>

730
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,840
<i>- ♪ That's what I want, yeah ♪
- ♪ That's what I want ♪</i>

731
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240
<i>♪ That's what I want... ♪</i>

732
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760
[John] <i>In Hamburg, 'cause we had to work</i>

733
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
<i>six or seven hours a night...</i>

734
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
<i>on stage with no rest...</i>

735
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,040
<i>the waiters always had
these pills called Preludin.</i>

736
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,840
<i>And so the waiters, when they'd see</i>

737
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,840
<i>the musicians falling over
with tiredness or with drink,</i>

738
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,400
<i>they'd give you the pill.</i>

739
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,240
<i>You'd take the pill, you'd be
talking, you'd sober up.</i>

740
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160
<i>You know, you could work almost endlessly</i>

741
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
<i>until the pill wore off,
then you'd have to have another.</i>

742
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160
We used to just be up there
frothing, you know,

743
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880
at the mouth, just foaming,

744
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,240
just stomping away,
doing this, so... [laughing]

745
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Those were the days.

746
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,360
[John] <i>We had to play</i>
<i>all the tunes for hours</i>

747
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,880
<i>and hours on end, you know.</i>

748
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,840
<i>That's why every song lasted 20 minutes</i>

749
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,560
<i>and had 20 solos in it.</i>

750
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,320
<i>But we'd be playing, like,
eight or ten hours a night,</i>

751
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,400
<i>or something.</i>

752
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,520
<i>And that's what improved
the playing, you know.</i>

753
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,960
<i>We thought we were the best
in Hamburg and Liverpool</i>

754
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,520
<i>before anybody else had heard us.</i>

755
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,160
<i>We thought we were the best!</i>

756
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,080
<i>Just a matter of time
before everybody else caught on.</i>

757
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680
<i>And believing that
is what made us what we were.</i>

758
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,960
{\an8}- [♪ Music concludes]
- [Ringo] <i>By the time</i>

759
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,160
{\an8}<i>we all met up in Germany,</i>

760
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,920
{\an8}<i>they were playing one club,
we were playing another, um,</i>

761
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,040
<i>they were just great by then.</i>

762
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160
[John] <i>Ringo was a professional drummer</i>

763
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
<i>who sang and performed,
and had "Ringo Starr Time!"</i>

764
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
<i>And he was in the... one
of the top groups in Liverpool</i>

765
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,520
<i>before we even had a drummer!</i>

766
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Because we used to do long hours.

767
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560
We used to do 12 hours
in a weekend between two bands,

768
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680
uh, when we ended up
on the same club, and that.

769
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,520
So if they had the last set,
I'd sort of be semi-drunk

770
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,040
and demanding they play slow songs.

771
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,000
[George] <i>We made friends</i>
<i>with a lot of people.</i>

772
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
<i>The ones who became our real friends</i>

773
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,480
<i>were Klaus Voormann, Jürgen Vollmer,</i>

774
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,800
<i>and Astrid, who took</i>

775
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,320
<i>all the famous photographs
of us at that period.</i>

776
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
<i>Well, she was the one
who made us look good.</i>

777
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,120
<i>You know, those early Beatle photographs,</i>

778
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,760
<i>they look fantastic.
The Beatles look great.</i>

779
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,360
She<i> was dressed like that,</i>
<i>the leather kecks,</i>

780
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,000
<i>you know, and the hair
like the Beatle haircuts,</i>

781
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,880
<i>and so they gave us confidence
to, like, leave it that way.</i>

782
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
[Paul] They weren't really
Rockers or Mods,

783
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,640
they were something in the middle.

784
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,120
They called themselves
"Exis". Existentialists.

785
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,920
They were art students, really. [Laughs]

786
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,280
[♪ "Red Hot" playing]

787
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,720
<i>♪ My girl is red hot ♪</i>

788
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,240
<i>- ♪ My girl is red hot ♪
- ♪ Ooh! ♪</i>

789
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,240
<i>♪ My girl is red hot ♪</i>

790
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,200
<i>♪ My girl is red hot ♪</i>

791
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,640
<i>♪ She ain't got no money ♪</i>

792
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,080
<i>♪ But, man, she's really got a lot ♪</i>

793
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,240
<i>- ♪ My girl is red hot ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪</i>

794
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,280
<i>♪ I've got a girl that's six foot four ♪</i>

795
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,280
<i>♪ Sleeps in the kitchen
with her feet out the door ♪</i>

796
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,520
<i>♪ My girl is red hot ♪</i>

797
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960
<i>♪ My girl is red hot... ♪</i>

798
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,960
[George] I was 17 when we first went out

799
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,920
and they had this
kind of situation in Germany

800
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,080
which I'd never come across before...

801
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,120
- [♪ music concludes]
- ...which was a curfew, um,

802
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000
and after ten o'clock at night,

803
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,760
anybody who was under 18 had to get out.

804
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,240
And I was only 17,
I was sitting in the band

805
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560
and I kept... started getting worried.

806
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,240
And eventually somebody found out

807
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880
we didn't have any work permits or visas,

808
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,920
so they started closing in on us.

809
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,920
And the police came one day,

810
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560
and then they just booted me out.

811
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,760
So the second time
we went back when I was 18,

812
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,840
this fella came into the club
who was... they said,

813
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,520
"Oh, he's this famous
record producer and musician,"

814
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,000
and he was called Bert Kaempfert.

815
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,440
He came in the club,

816
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,600
and I remember this buzz went around,

817
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,240
"We've gotta be good. Play really good.

818
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,040
We may get a chance to record,"

819
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,040
which we did, and we got
all pleased with ourselves.

820
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,400
And then we got to the studio

821
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040
and he just wanted us to,
like, back up Tony Sheridan.

822
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,680
I remember feeling a little depressed.

823
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,160
But we did, nevertheless,
get to do that "My Bonnie".

824
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,360
{\an8}[♪ "My Bonnie" playing]

825
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,480
{\an8}<i>♪ My Bonnie lies over the ocean ♪</i>

826
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,480
<i>♪ My Bonnie lies over the sea ♪</i>

827
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,560
<i>♪ Well, my Bonnie lies over the ocean ♪</i>

828
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,400
<i>♪ Yeah, bring back my Bonnie to me... ♪</i>

829
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,960
[Paul] <i>While we were out there,</i>
<i>we started to see other groups,</i>

830
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,200
<i>and stuff, and started to get
a little bit dissatisfied</i>

831
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,480
<i>with Pete. Not massively,</i>

832
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,120
<i>but just a little bit of dissatisfaction</i>

833
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,400
<i>- started to creep in.</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

834
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,760
[George] <i>I seem to remember him, you know,</i>

835
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,640
<i>starting to not turn up for gigs,</i>

836
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,600
<i>and then we kept getting Ringo in.</i>

837
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,120
<i>Every time Ringo sat in with the band,</i>

838
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,800
<i>it just seemed like this was it.</i>

839
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,200
[Ringo] <i>And this happened</i>
<i>three or four times,</i>

840
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,280
<i>and then that was the end.</i>

841
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160
<i>You know, we were just pals,
and we'd have a drink after it,</i>

842
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,160
<i>and then I'd be back with Rory.</i>

843
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:20,560
[Paul] <i>And round about this time,</i>

844
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,880
<i>Stuart and I got a little bit fraught too.</i>

845
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
<i>See, 'cause I... I claim
that what I was trying to do</i>

846
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,240
<i>was make sure we were musically very good,</i>

847
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,760
<i>but this did create a couple of rifts,</i>

848
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,760
<i>and I can see now how I could
have been more sensitive to it.</i>

849
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
<i>But who's sensitive at that age?
Certainly not me.</i>

850
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,640
[George] <i>Well, when we first met him,</i>

851
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,920
<i>he couldn't play at all, uh,
and he learned a few tunes.</i>

852
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,680
<i>Occasionally, it was a bit embarrassing.</i>

853
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,160
<i>He didn't... You know, if it had
a lot of changes to it he was...</i>

854
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,400
<i>But he knew that, too.
That's why, you know,</i>

855
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,600
<i>he was never really that at ease
being in the band,</i>

856
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,920
<i>and that's why he decided
to go back to art college.</i>

857
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
<i>At that point,
Paul was still playing a guitar,</i>

858
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,800
<i>and I remember saying,</i>

859
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000
<i>"Well, one of us
is going to be the bass player."</i>

860
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,640
<i>"I remember saying, "And it's not me.</i>

861
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,040
<i>I'm not doing it." And John said,</i>

862
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,280
<i>"I'm not doing it either."</i>

863
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,800
[Paul] <i>I got lumbered with it, really.</i>

864
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,160
<i>I didn't wanna be the bass player,</i>

865
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,520
<i>but there was no one left.
So I went and got...</i>

866
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,480
<i>I went, uh... Before we left Hamburg,</i>

867
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,800
<i>I went and got, um,</i>

868
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,200
<i>my Höfner bass down in the city center.</i>

869
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,240
[George] <i>He went for it.</i>

870
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,400
[♪ "I'm Down" playing]

871
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,240
<i>♪ You tell lies thinking I can't see ♪</i>

872
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,720
<i>♪ You can't cry
'cause your laughing at me ♪</i>

873
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,480
<i>- ♪ I'm down ♪</i>
- ♪ <i>I'm really down ♪</i>

874
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600
<i>- ♪ I'm down ♪
- ♪ Down on the ground ♪</i>

875
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,920
<i>- ♪ I'm down ♪
- ♪ I'm really down ♪</i>

876
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,880
<i>♪ How can you laugh
when you know I'm down? ♪</i>

877
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,480
<i>- ♪ How can you laugh ♪
- ♪ When you know I'm down? ♪</i>

878
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520
- [♪ Music concludes]
- And then we went back to Liverpool

879
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,400
and got quite a few bookings,
you know, they all thought

880
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,640
we were German.

881
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,120
You know, we were billed
as "from Hamburg",

882
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,760
and they were all saying,
"You speak good English..."

883
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,440
[chuckles] ...you know, things like that.

884
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,520
So we went back to Germany,

885
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,200
and we had a bit more
money the second time,

886
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,360
so we bought leather pants

887
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,360
and we looked like four Gene Vincents,

888
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,400
only a bit younger, I think.

889
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,760
Anyway, we got back to Liverpool,

890
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,400
and all the groups there were doing

891
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080
the sort of Shadows type of stuff.

892
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,280
{\an8}[♪ "F.B.I." playing]

893
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,280
[George] That's why, you know,
we became popular

894
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,800
because they couldn't believe it.

895
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,040
There was all these
<i>♪ Dum, de-dum, de-dum, de-dum ♪</i>

896
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,840
<i>♪ de-diddlee-dum... ♪</i> [chuckles]

897
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,000
...and then suddenly we come on,
wild men in leather suits.

898
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,720
[Neil Aspinall]
I think it was Pete Best...

899
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,600
- [♪ music concludes]
- ...said to them that, uh, you know,

900
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680
{\an8}I would, uh, drive them, uh,

901
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
{\an8}to the gigs and stuff. And, uh, I got...

902
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,640
{\an8}I think I got a pound a night,
or a pound a gig, you know.

903
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Five bob off each of 'em.

904
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,600
You know, they needed transport
to get them to the Cavern

905
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,040
and wherever, 'cause they were
using cabs at the time.

906
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,280
[John] I mean, on the street in Liverpool,

907
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560
and unless you were in the suburbs,

908
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,120
yeah, I mean, you had to walk
close to the wall, you know?

909
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,440
And to get to the Cavern, you know,

910
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,200
for those of you who remember all that,

911
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,720
it was no easy matter,
even at lunchtime sometimes.

912
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,440
I mean, it's a tense place.

913
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,680
{\an8}[George] <i>We played the Cavern</i>
<i>before we ever went to Hamburg,</i>

914
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,920
{\an8}<i>I believe,</i>

915
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
{\an8}<i>in the days when it was a jazz
and folk club.</i>

916
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,960
<i>I seem to remember playing there</i>

917
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,800
<i>and them handing us
these notes saying,</i>

918
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,760
<i>"Stop playing this music.
This is a jazz club."</i>

919
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,960
[Paul] <i>Had a couple of requests</i>
<i>to do a tune</i>

920
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,400
<i>called "Kansas City",</i>

921
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,000
<i>so we'd like to do "Kansas City".</i>

922
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,040
<i>One, two, three...</i>

923
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,880
[♪ "Kansas City" playing]

924
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,160
[Paul] <i>So anyway,</i>
<i>we did well at the Cavern</i>

925
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
<i>and, uh, attracted some big audiences.</i>

926
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,800
<i>And the word got around.</i>

927
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,960
<i>What had happened was a kid had gone</i>

928
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,240
<i>into Brian Epstein's record store</i>

929
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,960
<i>and had asked for "My Bonnie".</i>

930
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,280
[George] <i>And then he found out</i>

931
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480
<i>that the Beatles were supposed
to be a Liverpool band</i>

932
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,800
<i>and they were playing in the Cavern,</i>

933
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,480
<i>so he went down the street
and... and checked us out.</i>

934
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,600
<i>Because I remember Bob Wooler,
the disc jockey, saying,</i>

935
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,120
<i>"And we have a Mr. Epstein,</i>

936
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,160
<i>who owns NEMS Enterprises, in here."</i>

937
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,520
<i>And everybody was going,
"Ooh! Wow!" you know.</i>

938
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,600
<i>Big, big deal.</i>

939
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
<i>♪ ...one more time, whoa, whoa ♪</i>

940
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,800
<i>♪ It's just a-one, two, three, four... ♪</i>

941
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,840
[Brian Epstein] This was quite
a new world really for me.

942
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Uh, I was amazed by this sort of dark,

943
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
smoky, dank atmosphere

944
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,920
with this beat music playing away.

945
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,440
{\an8}And, um, the Beatles
were then just four lads

946
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,760
{\an8}- on that rather dimly-lit stage...
- [♪ music concludes]

947
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,760
...uh, somewhat ill-clad,
and their presentation was,

948
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,320
well, left a little to be desired

949
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,600
as far as I was concerned,

950
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,560
'cause I'd been interested in the theatre

951
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,520
and acting for a long time.

952
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,760
But amongst all that,
something tremendous came over,

953
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,720
and, uh, I was immediately struck

954
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
by their... their...
their music, their beat

955
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,320
and, uh, their sense of humor,
actually, on stage.

956
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,080
And even afterwards, when I met them,

957
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,480
I was struck again
by their personal charm.

958
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,640
And, uh, it was there
that really it all started.

959
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,760
Brian had this shop and,
you know, it was good.

960
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,280
We used to get... pick a couple of records,

961
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,480
and he had this big Zephyr Zodiac,

962
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,720
and he wanted to manage us,

963
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960
and we weren't going anywhere anyway, so,

964
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,440
you know, we said,
"Yes, he might as well."

965
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Straight away he got us some jobs,

966
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,440
got us a bit more money

967
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,360
and, um, then started
getting us radio shows,

968
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,720
and things like that. And then,
you know, as we go ahead,

969
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,640
we got into our suits.

970
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,440
You know, he talked
us out of the leather suits.

971
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,800
[Paul] It was a bit
sort of old hat anyway,

972
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,640
all wearing leather gear,

973
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,960
and we decided we didn't
wanna look sort of ridiculous

974
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,760
just going on, because y...
more often than not,

975
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,800
sort of people, too many people'd laugh.

976
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,720
It was just stupid. And we didn't wanna

977
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840
sort of appear as a gang of idiots.

978
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,520
And Brian suggested that we just
sort of wore ordinary suits.

979
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,800
[John] <i>I mean, we cleaned up a bit.</i>

980
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560
<i>Brian cleaned us up a bit
when he discovered us...</i>

981
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,440
<i>or we discovered him, as Paul says.</i>

982
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,600
[Paul] It was later
put around that, uh,

983
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,440
I'd betrayed our heavy leather image

984
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,520
that we had at the time,
and I wanted us to get suits.

985
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,680
But I seem to recall that we,
uh, all went quite happily.

986
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,960
I didn't have to drag anyone
there, uh, to the tailors.

987
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,440
They all went quite happily.

988
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,240
[John] <i>You know,</i>
<i>Brian put us into suits,</i>

989
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,200
<i>and all that,
and we made it very, very big.</i>

990
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,560
<i>But we sold out, you know.</i>

991
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,520
[George] So, you know,
we gladly switched into suits,

992
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,600
you know, if it was...

993
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,280
if we were gonna get
some more money,

994
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,480
get some more gigs.

995
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120
[John] <i>Brian was a...</i>
<i>a beautiful guy, Brian Epstein,</i>

996
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,880
<i>and he was, uh,
an intuitive, theatrical guy,</i>

997
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,240
<i>and he knew we had something.
He presented us well.</i>

998
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,280
<i>So Brian contributed as much
as us in the early days,</i>

999
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,920
<i>although we were the talent
and he was the hustler.</i>

1000
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,360
[♪ "Three Cool Cats" playing]

1001
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,400
{\an8}[Neil Aspinall] <i>Yeah, I remember</i>
<i>we had to drive down to London</i>

1002
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,280
{\an8}<i>on, uh, New Year's Eve,</i>

1003
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,760
{\an8}<i>because we did, uh, a session for Decca.</i>

1004
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
<i>You know, an audition for Decca.</i>

1005
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080
{\an8}<i>♪ Well, up popped that first cool cat ♪</i>

1006
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,480
{\an8}<i>♪ He said, "Man, look at that! ♪</i>"

1007
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,120
"{\an8}<i>♪ Man, do you see what I see?" ♪</i>

1008
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,680
<i>♪ Well, now, I want that middle chick ♪</i>

1009
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,320
<i>♪ I want that little chick ♪</i>

1010
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,680
<i>♪ Hey, man, save one chick for me! ♪</i>

1011
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,080
<i>- ♪ Yeah! ♪
- ♪ Three cool chicks ♪</i>

1012
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,880
<i>♪ Three cool chicks ♪</i>

1013
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,360
<i>♪ Ah-hah! ♪</i>

1014
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,840
- [♪ "Bésame Mucho" playing]
<i>- ♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪</i>

1015
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,680
<i>♪ Bésame, bésame mucho... ♪</i>

1016
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,240
[John] <i>And when you hear</i>
<i>the tape, it's pretty good.</i>

1017
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,520
<i>You know, it's not great, but it's good.</i>

1018
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,400
<i>And it's certainly good for then.</i>

1019
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,760
[George] <i>Dick Rowe,</i>
<i>the man who didn't sign us,</i>

1020
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,560
<i>the head of Decca, he said,</i>

1021
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,760
<i>"Guitar groups are on the way
out, Mr. Epstein."</i>

1022
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,720
<i>♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪</i>

1023
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:50,160
<i>♪ Bésame, bésame mucho ♪</i>

1024
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,120
<i>♪ Love me forever ♪</i>

1025
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
<i>♪ And say that you'll always be mine ♪</i>

1026
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,480
<i>- ♪ Cha-cha boom! ♪</i>
- [♪ music concludes]

1027
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,440
So Brian then had this tape
which he hawked around.

1028
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,760
[John] <i>If he hadn't gone</i>
<i>round London on foot</i>

1029
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,240
<i>with the tapes under his arm</i>

1030
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600
<i>and gone from place
to place, to place to place,</i>

1031
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,280
<i>and finally to George Martin...</i>

1032
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,640
<i>we would never have made it,</i>

1033
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,800
<i>because we didn't have the push
to do it on our own.</i>

1034
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,760
And I think it was somebody
in the HMV shop on Oxford Street

1035
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
knew George Martin, and told Brian to go

1036
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,160
and play the tape to George Martin,

1037
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,840
and then he gave us
the audition at, um, Abbey Road.

1038
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,160
[♪ "Love Me Do" playing]

1039
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,000
[George Martin] <i>And, uh,</i>
<i>they came down here</i>

1040
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,760
<i>and I spent some time with them,</i>

1041
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,800
<i>went through all their stuff,
and tried to make up my mind</i>

1042
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600
<i>which was the Cliff Richard
of the group, you know.</i>

1043
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,080
<i>Because one gets... one was focused,</i>

1044
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,840
<i>in those days, on a... a lead
singer and a backing group.</i>

1045
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,480
<i>And, uh, suddenly
realized at the end of it all</i>

1046
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,720
<i>that it was nonsense.</i>

1047
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,640
<i>It was a group
that I had to take as it was.</i>

1048
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,400
[John] George had done little of...

1049
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,040
no rock and roll when we met him,

1050
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,400
and we'd never been in the studio,

1051
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,920
so we did a lot of learning together.

1052
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,400
He had a very great

1053
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,080
musical knowledge and background.

1054
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,840
[George Martin] Even though they had, uh,

1055
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,560
nothing really behind them,

1056
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,760
{\an8}they were still fairly
irreverent even in those days,

1057
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,200
{\an8}which I... which I loved, you know.

1058
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
{\an8}I... I... I like a little bit
of rebel in people,

1059
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,920
{\an8}and I liked their sense of humor.

1060
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680
After all, that was my main
stock-in-trade, too.

1061
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
And I guess they quite liked
what I'd been doing

1062
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,920
with Peter Sellers and the Goons,

1063
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,560
and that kind of thing.
Um, no, I... I don't...

1064
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,360
They... They had tremendous charisma.

1065
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
I knew that that alone would sell them.

1066
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160
[Paul] <i>And we did a reasonable</i>
<i>audition, not very good.</i>

1067
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,520
<i>But the thing he didn't like
was our drummer.</i>

1068
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,640
<i>We really started to think we, um,</i>

1069
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,880
{\an8}<i>needed </i>the<i> great drummer in Liverpool.</i>

1070
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,480
{\an8}[Ringo] Uh, it was a Wednesday,
and Brian called.

1071
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,520
- "Would you join the band?"
- [♪ music concludes]

1072
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,840
[Ringo] And I said,
"What do you mean?" He said,

1073
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
"No, really join the band."

1074
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,720
And I said,
"Sure. Yeah. When?" And he said,

1075
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
"Now!" Well, I said, "No, I can't do that

1076
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440
'cause we've got
these other four guys here.

1077
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,960
There's... We've got a gig for months

1078
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,560
"and, you know, I can't just
pull out now and it all end."

1079
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,920
So I said, "I'll join you Saturday,"

1080
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,200
because we used to have Saturday off,

1081
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160
'cause that's when they used
to change the campers.

1082
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,760
And so I gave Rory
Thursday, Friday, Saturday

1083
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,480
to bring someone in, 'cause...

1084
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,560
to open again on Sunday,
which I thought was giving him

1085
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,240
a hell of a lot of time. [Laughs]

1086
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,040
And... uh, and that was it.

1087
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,800
Historically, it may look like
we did something nasty to Pete,

1088
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,360
and it may... may have been

1089
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,160
that we could have done it better.

1090
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,600
But the thing was, as history also shows,

1091
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,400
Ringo was the... the member of the band.

1092
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,280
It's just that he didn't enter
the s... the film

1093
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
until that particular scene, you know?

1094
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,200
[John] <i>I met Paul and said,</i>

1095
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,080
<i>"Do you wanna join me band?" you know.</i>

1096
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,240
<i>And then George joined.
And then Ringo joined.</i>

1097
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,600
<i>We were just a band who made
it very, very big, that's all.</i>

1098
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,920
[announcer] At this midday
session at the Cavern,

1099
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,600
we proudly present The Beatles.

1100
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,040
[crowd cheering]

1101
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,360
{\an8}[♪ "Some Other Guy" playing]

1102
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,320
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1103
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,600
<i>♪ Has taken my love
away from me, oh now ♪</i>

1104
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,120
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1105
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,440
<i>♪ Has taken away
my sweet desire, oh now ♪</i>

1106
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,240
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1107
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,240
<i>♪ I just don't wanna hold
my head, oh now ♪</i>

1108
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,800
<i>♪ I'm the lonely one ♪</i>

1109
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,160
<i>♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right ♪</i>

1110
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,520
<i>♪ Some other guy ♪</i>

1111
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,120
<i>♪ You're steppin' on my honey
like a yellow dog, oh now ♪</i>

1112
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,840
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1113
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920
<i>♪ Has taken my love
just like a hog, oh now ♪</i>

1114
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,680
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1115
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,960
<i>♪ Has taken my love
away from me, oh now ♪</i>

1116
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
<i>♪ I'm the lonely one ♪</i>

1117
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,160
<i>♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right ♪</i>

1118
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,320
<i>♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪</i>

1119
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,040
<i>♪ Some other guy ♪</i>

1120
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,360
<i>♪ You're making me
very, very mad, oh now ♪</i>

1121
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,960
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1122
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,240
<i>♪ You've taken the padlock
off my pad, oh now ♪</i>

1123
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,960
<i>♪ Some other guy now ♪</i>

1124
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,240
<i>♪ You took the first girl
I've ever had, oh now ♪</i>

1125
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,040
<i>♪ I'm the lonely one ♪</i>

1126
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,640
<i>♪ As lonely as I can feel, all right now ♪</i>

1127
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,360
<i>♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪</i>

1128
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000
<i>♪ I'm a-talkin' to you, right now ♪</i>

1129
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,920
[crowd cheering]

1130
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,000
- [♪ Music concludes]
- [audience member] We want Pete!

1131
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,160
We played the Cavern.

1132
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,000
There was a lot of fighting and shouting.

1133
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,640
Half of them hated me,
half of them loved me.

1134
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,880
There was a few people there
who were shouting,

1135
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,040
"Ringo never! Pete Best forever!"

1136
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
And after about half an hour,
I said, "Oh, bugger off"

1137
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,840
or something and,
uh, stepped out of this...

1138
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,360
you know, the Cavern had this...
it was three tunnels,

1139
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,760
and we stepped out
of what was the dressing room

1140
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,280
into this dark tunnel,
and some guy just, like,

1141
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,280
butted me right in the eye.

1142
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,000
That was a bad day.
And then I walked under a bus.

1143
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Got hit by a double-deck bus.

1144
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,320
[Ringo] <i>George fought for me.</i>

1145
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,400
[John] <i>What I think</i>
<i>about the Beatles is that</i>

1146
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,000
<i>even if there'd been Paul
and John and two other people,</i>

1147
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,520
<i>we'd never have been The Beatles.</i>

1148
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,520
<i>It had to take that combination
of Paul, John,</i>

1149
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,280
<i>George and Ringo to make The Beatles.</i>

1150
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,480
[George Martin] When Ringo
came to the session

1151
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,760
for the first time,

1152
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
nobody told me that he was coming.

1153
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,400
Ringo turns up expecting to play,

1154
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,720
and I said, "Well, you know,
I've been bitten once,

1155
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,000
I'm not going to have that.
I don't even know who you are."

1156
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,600
[Paul] He'd originally told us
he wanted another drummer

1157
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,000
besides Pete Best.
We'd gone away. We'd changed.

1158
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,640
We brought the new drummer,
the best in Liverpool,

1159
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,360
and now he didn't like the new drummer!

1160
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,280
I'd already booked Andy White,

1161
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,400
and I told Brian Epstein
I was going to do this.

1162
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,000
I said, "I just want the three others,

1163
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,480
and that's fine.
We're going to have Andy White,

1164
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,720
{\an8}thank you very much."

1165
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,800
{\an8}And I then I had to find
a hit song for them.

1166
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,360
{\an8}The best I could find from them
was "Love Me Do".

1167
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,800
[Ringo] No, I was devastated!
I came down, ready to roll, and,

1168
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960
"We've got Andy White,
the professional drummer."

1169
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,840
But he's apologized several times since,

1170
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,200
has old George Martin.

1171
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,040
But it was... it was devastating.

1172
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,760
And then we did that, which...
which Andy plays on,

1173
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440
and then we did the album,
which I play on.

1174
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,240
You know, so Andy
wasn't doing anything so great.

1175
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,160
Well, he wasn't doing anything
so great I couldn't copy

1176
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,800
when we did the album.

1177
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Oh, Ringo, to this day,
bears those scars.

1178
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,360
He says, you know, "You didn't
let me play, did you?"

1179
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,880
[♪ "Love Me Do" playing]

1180
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,800
[John] <i>Well, "Love Me Do"</i>
<i>was one of the first ones</i>

1181
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,760
<i>we wrote ourselves, you know,
and Paul started writing that</i>

1182
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,440
<i>when he must have been about 15.</i>

1183
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,520
<i>It was the first one we'd sort
of dared do of our own.</i>

1184
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520
<i>♪ Love, love me do ♪</i>

1185
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
<i>♪ You know I love you ♪</i>

1186
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,280
<i>♪ I'll always be true ♪</i>

1187
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,400
<i>♪ So please ♪</i>

1188
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
<i>♪ Love me do ♪</i>

1189
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,480
Actually,
their first record did very well.

1190
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
It sold 100,000 copies.
That was "Love Me Do".

1191
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,080
The best thing was, it came
to the charts in two days.

1192
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,800
And everybody thought it was a fiddle

1193
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,880
because our manager's stores
send in these,

1194
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,080
- what is it, record things?
- [George] Returns.

1195
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Returns.

1196
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,040
And everybody down south
thought,

1197
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,760
"Ah, he's buying them himself,

1198
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,560
"or he's just fiddling
the charts," you know.

1199
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,680
But he wasn't.

1200
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,240
[Ringo] It was bought by the kids.

1201
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,920
I mean, we had a big following.

1202
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,240
And who'd had a record? It was...

1203
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,320
You know, Arthur Askey
was the last one, I think,

1204
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,600
out of Liverpool.

1205
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,160
<i>♪ Someone to love ♪</i>

1206
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,720
<i>♪ Someone like you ♪</i>

1207
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680
<i>♪ Love, love me do ♪</i>

1208
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,080
<i>♪ You know I love you ♪</i>

1209
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,400
<i>♪ I'll always be true ♪</i>

1210
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:35,960
<i>♪ So please love me do ♪</i>

1211
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,840
<i>♪ Whoa, oh, love me do ♪</i>

1212
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,880
<i>♪ Love, love me do ♪</i>

1213
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040
<i>♪ You know I love you ♪</i>

1214
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,320
<i>♪ I'll always be true ♪</i>

1215
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,560
<i>♪ So please ♪</i>

1216
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,120
<i>♪ Love me do ♪</i>

1217
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,840
<i>♪ Whoa, oh, love me do ♪</i>

1218
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,160
<i>♪ Yeah, love me do ♪</i>

1219
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,040
<i>♪ Oh, oh, love me do... ♪</i>

1220
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,760
[George] We made the record
of "Love Me Do".

1221
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,800
{\an8}- [♪ Music concludes]
- It went to No. 17,

1222
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,120
{\an8}probably based upon the sales
in Liverpool.

1223
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,800
{\an8}EMI was kinda happy to have us back.

1224
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,280
"Welcome back, lads!"

1225
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,120
[Paul] <i>We were starting to be this group</i>

1226
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,000
<i>that had done its own material.</i>

1227
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,600
<i>But normally you'd be offered
a number of songs</i>

1228
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,960
<i>by a publisher, and they'd say,</i>

1229
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,080
<i>"Get your boys to do this one.
This is a hit."</i>

1230
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,400
[John] <i>When we first got in the studio,</i>

1231
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,080
<i>they tried to give us
other people's songs.</i>

1232
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,400
<i>They didn't like ours.</i>

1233
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,680
Well, it was quite normal
in those days to find material

1234
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,400
for artists by going to Tin Pan Alley

1235
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,720
and listening
to all the publishers' wares.

1236
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,920
I mean, that was a regular part
of my life.

1237
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,760
I'd spend a long time looking for songs.

1238
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,400
And the songs that I was looking for

1239
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,600
for the Beatles was really a hit song,

1240
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,480
it didn't matter, so long
as it suited their... the group.

1241
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,280
And "Love Me Do", as I say,
was the best one

1242
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,600
they were able to offer.

1243
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,560
The kind of song I was looking for,

1244
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,920
I did actually find.

1245
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,240
And that was a song by Mitch Murray

1246
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,360
called "How Do You Do It?"

1247
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,840
And I was convinced this was a hit song.

1248
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,440
[John] <i>It forced us to do a version of...</i>

1249
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,680
<i>♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪</i>

1250
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,040
<i>♪ I wish I knew... ♪</i>

1251
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,240
[chuckles] <i>You know, like that.</i>

1252
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,520
And we did record it.
Um... John took the lead.

1253
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,040
- [♪ "How Do You Do It?" playing]
<i>- ♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪</i>

1254
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,280
<i>♪ I wish I knew ♪</i>

1255
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,280
<i>♪ If I knew how you do it to me,
I'd do it to you ♪</i>

1256
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,920
George said, "Well, it's a No. 1 song.

1257
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,800
If you want a No. 1, this is it."

1258
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,600
We said, "Yeah, but we cannot go
back up to Liverpool"

1259
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,200
singing that.

1260
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,200
- We cannot be seen with that song."
- [♪ music concludes]

1261
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,520
So we didn't ever issue
"How Do You Do It?"

1262
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
But I did later give it
to Gerry and the Pacemakers,

1263
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
and it did become No. 1.

1264
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,120
{\an8}- [♪ "How Do You Do It?" playing]
<i>- ♪ How do you do what you do to me? ♪</i>

1265
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
{\an8}<i>♪ I wish I knew ♪</i>

1266
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,760
{\an8}<i>♪ If I knew how you do it to me,
I'd do it to you ♪</i>

1267
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,880
So George Martin says,

1268
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,360
"Well, have you got anything
<i>you'd</i> like to do?"

1269
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,520
- We said...
- [♪ music concludes]

1270
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,280
..."We've got a song
called 'Please Please Me'."

1271
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,720
This is one John had just written,

1272
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,000
and it was kind of slow
Roy Orbison kind of thing.

1273
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,920
[♪ Sings "Please Please Me"]
<i>♪ Come on, jum-jum ♪</i>

1274
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,320
<i>♪ Come on,
please, please me ♪</i>

1275
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,320
Big note at the end, just like Orbison.

1276
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,240
[John] <i>And I'd heard Roy Orbison doing</i>

1277
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
<i>"Only The Lonely" or something,
and I was trying to...</i>

1278
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,800
[sings falsetto]
<i>♪ Please me... ♪</i>

1279
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,080
<i>That's where </i>that<i> came from.</i>

1280
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,280
<i>And also I was always intrigued
by the words of...</i>

1281
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,320
[♪ sings "Please"] <i>♪ Please,</i>
<i>lend your little ears to my pleas... ♪</i>

1282
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,280
<i>A Bing Crosby song.
I was always intrigued by the...</i>

1283
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,080
<i>the double use of the word "please".</i>

1284
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,040
And I said, "Okay. We'll give it a whirl.

1285
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,240
Let's try your song.
Let's see if it works."

1286
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,040
- And we did.
- [♪ "Please Please Me" playing]

1287
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,560
And at the end of that session,

1288
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,960
I was able to say to them,

1289
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,200
"You've got your first No. 1. Great!"

1290
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,760
[crowd cheering]

1291
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,680
<i>♪ Last night I said these words
to my girl ♪</i>

1292
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,360
<i>♪ I know you never even try, girl ♪</i>

1293
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,640
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1294
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,240
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1295
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,960
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1296
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,280
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1297
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,240
<i>♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪</i>

1298
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,520
<i>♪ You don't need me
to show the way, love ♪</i>

1299
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,200
<i>♪ Why do I always have to say, love ♪</i>

1300
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,560
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1301
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,240
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1302
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,960
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1303
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,320
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1304
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,280
<i>♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪</i>

1305
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,240
<i>♪ I don't want to sound complaining ♪</i>

1306
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,720
<i>♪ But you know there's always
rain in my heart ♪</i>

1307
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,440
<i>- ♪ In my heart ♪
- ♪ In my heart ♪</i>

1308
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,120
<i>♪ I do all the pleasing with you ♪</i>

1309
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,040
<i>♪ It's so hard to reason with you ♪</i>

1310
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,320
<i>♪ Oh yeah,
why do you make me blue? ♪</i>

1311
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,880
<i>♪ Last night I said these words
to my girl ♪</i>

1312
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,600
<i>♪ I know you never even try, girl ♪</i>

1313
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,680
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1314
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,400
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1315
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,240
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1316
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,720
<i>- ♪ Come on ♪
- ♪ Come on ♪</i>

1317
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,520
<i>♪ Please, please me, whoa, yeah,
like I please you ♪</i>

1318
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,880
<i>♪ Me, whoa, yeah, like I please you ♪</i>

1319
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,440
<i>♪ Me, whoa, yeah, like I please you ♪</i>

1320
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,680
[♪ vocalizing]

1321
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,880
- [♪ Music concludes]
- [crowd cheering, applauding]

1322
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:03,160
{\an8}And Bob Wooler got on the stage,
telegram in his hand.

1323
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,560
{\an8}"I've got news for you.

1324
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,080
The Beatles' record, 'Please Please Me'

1325
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680
has reached No. 1 in the national charts."

1326
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,400
And the lads themselves
just stopped and looked at him.

1327
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,800
You know, they thought he was joking,

1328
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,880
he must have been.

1329
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,080
You know, that was Paul,
"He must be joking."

1330
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,840
And there... there were a lot of people

1331
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,280
who didn't know the Beatles,

1332
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,680
and they all started cheering
and clapping.

1333
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,080
And there were about three rows
of girls at the front,

1334
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,400
and every one of us started crying.

1335
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,440
It was a terrible night.
You know, we knew then,

1336
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,960
they'll get famous and they'll go away

1337
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,360
and they'll belong to us no more.

1338
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,080
[♪ "Leave My Kitten Alone" playing]

1339
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,360
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1340
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,680
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1341
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,760
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1342
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,240
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1343
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,200
<i>♪ Well, I told you, big fat bulldog ♪</i>

1344
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,480
<i>♪ You better leave her alone ♪</i>

1345
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,880
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1346
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,240
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1347
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1348
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,800
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1349
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,600
<i>♪ This dog is gonna get you ♪</i>

1350
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,080
<i>♪ If you don't leave her alone ♪</i>

1351
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,320
<i>♪ Well, Mister Dog ♪</i>

1352
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,800
<i>♪ I'm gonna hit you ♪</i>

1353
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,120
<i>♪ On the top of your head ♪</i>

1354
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,560
<i>♪ That child is gonna miss you ♪</i>

1355
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,760
<i>♪ You're gonna wish ♪</i>

1356
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,000
<i>♪ That you was dead ♪</i>

1357
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,600
<i>♪ If you don't leave ♪</i>

1358
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,320
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1359
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,880
<i>♪ Well, I told you ♪</i>

1360
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,560
<i>♪ Big fat bulldog ♪</i>

1361
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
<i>♪ You better leave her alone ♪</i>

1362
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,480
<i>♪ All right! ♪</i>

1363
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,600
<i>♪ Hey, hey, hey, come on! ♪</i>

1364
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,360
<i>♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah! ♪</i>

1365
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,120
<i>♪ Yeah, yeah! ♪</i>

1366
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,280
<i>♪ Well, Mister Dog ♪</i>

1367
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,440
<i>♪ I'm gonna hit you ♪</i>

1368
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,000
<i>♪ On the top of your head ♪</i>

1369
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,480
<i>♪ That child is gonna miss you ♪</i>

1370
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,560
<i>♪ You're gonna wish ♪</i>

1371
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:46,640
<i>♪ That you was dead ♪</i>

1372
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,240
<i>♪ If you don't leave ♪</i>

1373
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,080
<i>♪ My kitten all alone ♪</i>

1374
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,160
<i>♪ Oh, yeah ♪</i>

1375
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,440
<i>♪ Well, I told you ♪</i>

1376
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,040
<i>♪ Big fat bulldog ♪</i>

1377
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,360
<i>♪ You better leave her alone ♪</i>

1378
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,720
<i>♪ Hey, hey ♪</i>

1379
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,440
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1380
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1381
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,400
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1382
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,840
<i>♪ Yeah, you better leave ♪</i>

1383
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,360
<i>♪ You better leave ♪</i>

1384
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,440
<i>♪ Oh, you gotta leave ♪</i>

1385
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,560
<i>♪ Hey, hey ♪</i>

1386
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,120
{\an8}<i>♪ Well, I told you ♪</i>

1387
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,640
{\an8}<i>♪ Big, fat bulldog ♪</i>

1388
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,000
{\an8}<i>♪ You better leave her alone ♪</i>

1389
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,280
{\an8}[♪ music concludes]


